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Floy
Member
Russia, Moscow
Russian
- Jun 10, 2011
- #1
Hello,
Taking a test I have come across this sentence (http://www.flo-joe.co.uk/cae/students/tests/strtest2.htm) :
Can you possibly get me the work as soon as possible.
APPRECIATE
I ........................................ you could get the work to me as soon as possible.
The answer is: would appreciate it if Thanks a lot in advance !!!
'd appreciate it if.My question is: is it possible to leave "it" out? I mean saying " I would appreciate if...? Or would it sound strange?
ewie
Senior Member
Manchester 🏴🇬🇧
English English
- Jun 10, 2011
- #2
Hello Floy. Sounds fine to me with or without it. I suspect it's more common with than without, though.
sound shift
Senior Member
Derby (central England)
English - England
- Jun 10, 2011
- #3
I could not omit "it" from this sentence.
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Perseas
Senior Member
Greece, Athens
Greek
- Jun 10, 2011
- #4
I think,as well, we need "it" here.
Without "it" we can have this option, for example : " I would be grateful if ..."
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Parla
Member Emeritus
New York City
English - US
- Jun 10, 2011
- #5
Yes, it would sound strange without the "if". But as Perseas suggests, you could substitute "be grateful" for "appreciate it".
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A. N.Z.Y.
New Member
Persian
- Jan 14, 2015
- #6
Hey there;
"appreciate" is a transitive verb, i.e. it requires an object. Thus, you need to use it with a noun/noun phrase (as in "I would appreciate your immediate action") or a pronoun (as in "I would appreciate it if you take the necessary actions immediately").
eli7
Senior Member
Iran
Persian (Farsi)
- May 31, 2018
- #7
Taken form Longman dictionary:
I'd really appreciate it if you'd turn that down.
Is "'d" would or could?
My question is if both "'d" stand for would. Can they be the short form of could?
DonnyB
Moderator Emeritus
Coventry, UK
English UK Southern Standard English
- May 31, 2018
- #8
eli7 said:
Taken form Longman dictionary:
I'd really appreciate it if you'd turn that down.
Is "'d" would or could?
My question is if both "'d" stand for would. Can they be the short form of could?
They're contractions of "I would" and "you would".
You can't use 'd as a contraction for could.
eli7
Senior Member
Iran
Persian (Farsi)
- May 31, 2018
- #9
Thanks. Using two "would" is grammatical? I mean, shouldn't it be "I would..... if you could...?
DonnyB
Moderator Emeritus
Coventry, UK
English UK Southern Standard English
- May 31, 2018
- #10
eli7 said:
Thanks. Using two "would" is grammatical? I mean, shouldn't it be "I would..... if you could...?
It would sound more natural to me as "I would.... if you could...".
But there's nothing actually wrong with the way they've done it there.
eli7
Senior Member
Iran
Persian (Farsi)
- May 31, 2018
- #11
I think that "could" has the meaning of "ability". If I say "I would appreciate it if you could turn it down", it would imply that "if you are able to turn it down".
Am I right?
If there is no room for ability and all is about the possibility, wouldn't "I would..... if you would" be more correct?
(Like, I would appreciate it if you would send me the files.)
DonnyB
Moderator Emeritus
Coventry, UK
English UK Southern Standard English
- May 31, 2018
- #12
eli7 said:
I think that "could" has the meaning of "ability". If I say "I would appreciate it if you could turn it down", it would imply that "if you are able to turn it down".
Am I right?
If there is no room for ability and all is about the possibility, wouldn't "I would..... if you would" be more correct?
(Like, I would appreciate it if you would send me the files.)
Yes, I suppose that strictly speaking, "I would appreciate it if you would send me the files" means if you were willing to send me the files, whereas "I would appreciate it if you could send me the files" means if you were able to send me the files.
In practice, both are used more or less interchangeably as just a way of paraphrasing "Please send me the files".
eli7
Senior Member
Iran
Persian (Farsi)
- Jun 1, 2018
- #13
Thank you
And if I say "I would appreciate it if you could send me the files", isn't it rude? Because definitely, s/he is not disabled! so s/he can send it to me if s/he wants.
Can I conclude that "would" is more neutral than "could"?
DonnyB
Moderator Emeritus
Coventry, UK
English UK Southern Standard English
- Jun 1, 2018
- #14
eli7 said:
And if I say "I would appreciate it if you could send me the files", isn't it rude? Because definitely, s/he is not disabled! so s/he can send it to me if s/he wants.
Can I conclude that "would" is more neutral than "could"?
No: you're misconstruing the meaning of "be able to": it doesn't mean physically capable of.
He/she might reply "I can't (= am not able to) send you the files because I've lost them".
eli7
Senior Member
Iran
Persian (Farsi)
- Jun 1, 2018
- #15
Oh, I see. Thanks.
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